2011 - 5k/10k/21k Speed Challenges

[mcshame]

Speed Challenges

17/38/82/180
SteveF - current PBs: 18:10/??/84:46/187:14 training starts December for spring Marathon, lots of hill training and min. 50k/week - max. 80k/week

Sub 18/39/86
dgrant - current PBs: 19:04/(n/a)/88:45 - focus on fun

Sub 18/37/87/180
killerz - current PBs: 18:40/ 37:23/ 88:40/ 186:51 (I think) - First two a lot more realistic than last two. All will depend on how to prioritise ultras/ marathons etc

Sub 20/40/90
mcshame - Current PBs: ??/41:34/92:46 - Mileage training for marathon leading into 5/10/21k in Summer
Ironboy - current PBs: 20:33/43:38/97:38 - Constant mileage (40-50km/week) increasing intensity of speed work and/or tempos.
b_squared - current PBs: 19:33/41:55/92:33 - whatever coach Doonst says
alexkCurrent PBs 20:29/42:03/1:36:38 - maintenance until mid Dec. (40-45 miles) then Boston training starting at 45 miles/week building to high 60s
erinmcd Current PBs ??/??/93:10- Training- starting marathon training cycle in Jan- plan to average approx 90km/ week
tarsals - Current PBs: ??/42:37/92:18 - marathon training cycle + IM training starting in Dec
HCmD - Current PBs: 21:06 (2004) / 41:03 (2004) / 94:07 -- After next 7-8 weeks of Goofy Training, looking to be getting into Ultra Training so, will see how everything will work out ....

20/41/95
Quickchick- current pbs: 21:43 5K, 42:43 10K, 1:39:10 half. Must build back base and speed as well... I hope to be back in good shape by the early spring.
daddy_runner - current pbs: 22:03 5k, ?? 10k, 1:43:43 half. I'm ambitious.

21/44/97
casual runner - current pbs: 21:31 5K(2007), 44:53 10K(2007), 1:39:50 half(2009). Just a little bit of improvement planned. Base building from 80km in August, 138km-Sept. 206km-Oct, planning 300km in November

21/44/97/210
Double Bellybuster - current pbs: 21:28 5K(2009), 45:41 10K(2010), 1:39:08 half(2010), 3:38:51 marathon (2010)

Sub 21/45/100
Michelle - current pbs: 21:59 5k, 47:46 10k(as part of a half), 1:45:08 half. I've just started doing speedwork though so we'll see what happens.
Joe Dwarf - current PBs: unknown 5k, 48:36 10k (very soft), 1:42:09 half.

22/45/105
Jwolf - current PB's: 23:25, 47:00, 109:28 - speed development while maintaining a decent base (~50-60K/week before I build for half-marathon)
purdy65 - I'm with Jwolf!
mas_runner - current PB's: 22:35, 49:22, 108:50
monkey - current PB's: 22:54(unofficial), 48:25.5, 105:35.1

24/49/109
r4l - current PBs: ? , 52:01, 1:52:51
Hammie - current PBs: 24:38, 53:09, 1:53:27 - I'll be training for my first full marathon in May, then shorter races for the summer.
BJH - current PBs: ?, ?, 1:56:37
OrleansRunner - current PBs: 27:03 (TT), 49:50, 1:59:39 -will be training for longer distances (Ultra), so hoping that the gained fitness will pay off!
rockstar79 - current PBs: ?, ?, 1:51:14... same as Hammie - first full marathon in May, then shorter distances

25/50/115 - CinC, BJH, care to join me???
La - current PBs: 5K (unknown, maybe 28min?), 10K 50:51 (Downhill at SL), 1/2M 1:59:16
Tori - current race PBs: 5k 25:59, 10k 52:30, 1/2 2:01:11 (after Goofy, my plan is shorter distances for next year and actually see if my races can match or beat my training runs which tend to be faster than my race PBs for some reason.

27/57/125
RA - current PB's: 28:23, 58:39, 134:25

[erinmcd]

I'm up in the wee hours of the morning doing an IT activity for work, so why not lay the ground work for a Shallonge that seems to be in the making.

Goal

To run a 19:XX 5k
To run a 40:00 10k
To run a 1:30 1/2M

McMillan says a 1:30 is equiv to a 40:27 10k and a 19:28 5k, so I think the above target are mostly in line and easy to remember.

So what do you think:
- Goal is to accomplish the 3 in 2011
- Requirement is that participants have not achieved those times or better, they are all new PBs
- Winner is....not sure about this as people may be targeting to do this at different times during the year, 1st person to achieve may not be the best. Is it the person with the lowest combined time of the 3 races by end of year?
- What's the prize?
- Should the 5k be 20m, 19:XX or 19:something...

How about stating individual goals (down to the second), and whoever gets the closest combined time for the 3 distances by the end of 2011 is the winner?
Prize should be an autographed photo of McShame doing the BQ roar.

[दिवंगत]

Goal should be Sub-20, Sub-40 and sub-1h30
No prize - three PB's should be enough of a prize.
All who achieve all three times will be winner(s).
If there has to be an actual "winner," lowest combined time for all three events decides.

[HCcD]

To be fair .. I think we should use an Age-Graded Equivalency to keep it honest and everyone on the same playing field ..

http://www.howardgrubb.co.uk/athletics/wmalookup06.html

[erinmcd]

To be fair .. I think we should use an Age-Graded Equivalency to keep it honest and everyone on the same playing field ..

http://www.howardgrubb.co.uk/athletics/wmalookup06.html

Do you know how I know you're old?

[HCcD]

To be fair .. I think we should use an Age-Graded Equivalency to keep it honest and everyone on the same playing field ..

http://www.howardgrubb.co.uk/athletics/wmalookup06.html

Do you know how I know you're old?

It's no fair comparing Master Times to you young puppies, Erin ...

[erinmcd]

To be fair .. I think we should use an Age-Graded Equivalency to keep it honest and everyone on the same playing field ..

http://www.howardgrubb.co.uk/athletics/wmalookup06.html

Do you know how I know you're old?

It's no fair comparing Master Times to you young puppies, Erin ...

Except with the streak you're on, you can smoke most of us young puppies straight up, even without the age graded times.

[HCcD]

Except with the streak you're on, you can smoke most of us young puppies straight up, even without the age graded times.

ha ha ... Erin made a funny ..

At least give a minute or, at least a 10 second handicap for every year difference ...

[mcshame]

Goal should be Sub-20, Sub-40 and sub-1h30
No prize - three PB's should be enough of a prize.
All who achieve all three times will be winner(s).
If there has to be an actual "winner," lowest combined time for all three events decides.

I'm with you and agree, 19:XX, 39:XX, 1:2X. 20, 40, 1:30 is not enough, you got to go sub. We can call the challenge Sub 20/40/90. Simple clean.

[mcshame]

How about stating individual goals (down to the second), and whoever gets the closest combined time for the 3 distances by the end of 2011 is the winner?

I think if people want to state goals, that's fine. But you must go south of the 3 if we calculate off personal goals for a winner, it gets all subjective. Go sub 20/40/90, we all win. The one that goes the lowest total gets to gloat.

What ever happened to that spud trophy?

Ironboy, Tarsal, Erin, 1ironatatime, b_squared you all in?

HCmD, suck it up.

[HCcD]

What ever happened to that spud trophy?

I think 'Tater has her now ... she's call Small Frye ...

[erinmcd]

How about stating individual goals (down to the second), and whoever gets the closest combined time for the 3 distances by the end of 2011 is the winner?

I think if people want to state goals, that's fine. But you must go south of the 3 if we calculate off personal goals for a winner, it gets all subjective. Go sub 20/40/90, we all win. The one that goes the lowest total gets to gloat.

What ever happened to that spud trophy?

Ironboy, Tarsal, Erin, 1ironatatime, b_squared you all in?

HCmD, suck it up.

I'm in.

[b_squared]

Goal should be Sub-20, Sub-40 and sub-1h30
No prize - three PB's should be enough of a prize.
All who achieve all three times will be winner(s).

I like this and as stated elsewhere, I'm in.
fwiw, a 39:59 10k predicts a 19:15 5k and 1:29:00 half with the mcmillan calculator

[mcshame]

Goal should be Sub-20, Sub-40 and sub-1h30
No prize - three PB's should be enough of a prize.
All who achieve all three times will be winner(s).

I like this and as stated elsewhere, I'm in.
fwiw, a 39:59 10k predicts a 19:15 5k and 1:29:00 half with the mcmillan calculator

Sounds good to me (a little scary but that's the point)

You, of course, have run a sub 20m 5k, correct? but not a sub 40 10k or sub 1:30 half. What do people think, do you have to have none to enter or if you have the 5k your still ok to enter. I'm good with it, others agree?

[HCcD]

Goal should be Sub-20, Sub-40 and sub-1h30
No prize - three PB's should be enough of a prize.
All who achieve all three times will be winner(s).

I like this and as stated elsewhere, I'm in.
fwiw, a 39:59 10k predicts a 19:15 5k and 1:29:00 half with the mcmillan calculator

Sounds good to me (a little scary but that's the point)

You, of course, have run a sub 20m 5k, correct? but not a sub 40 10k or sub 1:30 half. What do people think, do you have to have none to enter or if you have the 5k your still ok to enter. I'm good with it, others agree?

Don't think it should matter ... Though, how about a "qualifier" that if they previous ran a sub-whatever then they would have to run it faster, in other words, set a new PB standard ...

[दिवंगत]

I'm in.

[mcshame]

I'm in.

Looking forward to it old man Don't wear yourself all out in NYC, need you in fighting form in the New Year

[Ironboy]

I'll play, but just so I don't get heat for wimping out.

I'm not setting a timeline on my sub 20 5km goal, I'm going to work the plan and watch the progress, patiently and systematically. I expect that as close as I am, within the year is reasonable, but I don't know. It'll happen when it happens.

And I don't have plans to run a half at all, so I don't plan on winning, or being a "winner" (whatever that means )

We will definitely need to get together at the end of next year and buy the one with the best time a beer.

[दिवंगत]

I'll play, but just so I don't get heat for wimping out....

Don't worry James, I'm totally focused on IMC next year, success (or not) in this challenge will happen as a by-product for me. As for...

so I don't plan on winning, or being a "winner"(whatever that means )

You answered that with...

We will definitely need to get together at the end of next year and buy the one with the best time a beer.

[b_squared]

You, of course, have run a sub 20m 5k, correct? but not a sub 40 10k or sub 1:30 half. What do people think, do you have to have none to enter or if you have the 5k your still ok to enter. I'm good with it, others agree?

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other middle-aged guys out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

[mcshame]

You, of course, have run a sub 20m 5k, correct? but not a sub 40 10k or sub 1:30 half. What do people think, do you have to have none to enter or if you have the 5k your still ok to enter. I'm good with it, others agree?

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other middle-aged guys out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

Just having fun. I think it's great that we all have similar goals and can help and push each other on. It makes it more fun than doing it alone.

[b_squared]

You, of course, have run a sub 20m 5k, correct? but not a sub 40 10k or sub 1:30 half. What do people think, do you have to have none to enter or if you have the 5k your still ok to enter. I'm good with it, others agree?

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other middle-aged guys out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

Just having fun. I think it's great that we all have similar goals and can help and push each other on. It makes it more fun than doing it alone.

Absolutely!

[erinmcd]

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other [b]middle-aged guys[/b] out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

You know how sometimes reality hits you in the forehead like a cast iron frying pan? I just had one of those moments when I read that. I'm still probably a bit young to fit into that demographic (I'm 37), but it's coming fast. I remember when my dad was 37, and he seemed so old. And I'm pretty sure he couldn't run sub 20/40/1:30.

I like these types of challenges- great way to push yourself toward a goal, and an opportunity for some good-natured (yet merciless) ribbing.

[mcshame]

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other [b]middle-aged guys[/b] out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

You know how sometimes reality hits you in the forehead like a cast iron frying pan? I just had one of those moments when I read that. I'm still probably a bit young to fit into that demographic (I'm 37), but it's coming fast. I remember when my dad was 37, and he seemed so old. And I'm pretty sure he couldn't run sub 20/40/1:30.

I like these types of challenges- great way to push yourself toward a goal, and an opportunity for some good-natured (yet merciless) ribbing.

I'm turning 40 on the 23rd, but you guys are middle aged, so you can't read this...

[b_squared]

Maybe it's just the word 'enter' but just to be clear it is not my intent to be in a contest; these are my goals and I'm happy that there's a few other [b]middle-aged guys[/b] out there trying for the same thing and it would be great to pull each other along.

Like Ironboy, I have no specific timeline but the end of next year would be reasonable

You know how sometimes reality hits you in the forehead like a cast iron frying pan? I just had one of those moments when I read that. I'm still probably a bit young to fit into that demographic (I'm 37), but it's coming fast. I remember when my dad was 37, and he seemed so old. And I'm pretty sure he couldn't run sub 20/40/1:30.

I like these types of challenges- great way to push yourself toward a goal, and an opportunity for some good-natured (yet merciless) ribbing.

I'm turning 40 on the 23rd, but you guys are middle aged, so you can't read this...

I have the eyes of a 20 year old!