Bandits - like 'em or loose 'em?

DeValera · Postby **DeValera** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:41 pm

What is the thinking around here about race bandits these days?

This guy was on the Oakville 1/2 start line, ran the race in seventh position and veered off just at the finish chute. Took the Gatorade, enjoyed the closed course, the early spectator support...

Looking through other pics I noted he had company heading to the start...no timing chip on "Mrs." Bandit either.

I was cycling the race course and taking pics of another runner and noticed this guy...so I named the picture series from yesterday "Andrej and the Bandit"
http://picasaweb.google.com/DeValera15/AndrejAndTheBANDIT

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:44 pm

that's not right.

dwayne_runs_far · Postby **dwayne_runs_far** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 9:50 pm

Pretty shady characters.

Dwayne

getfit · Postby **getfit** » Tue Sep 04, 2007 10:16 pm

Funny, I was thinking about this while I was running the 10km Oakville race. For me, the thrill is at the end of the race when I see that finishing chute. Running the entire race and then not being able to finish would be pointless. I also think it's very unfair to the organizers of the race that pay for supplies, road closures, etc.

MINITEE · Postby **MINITEE** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:19 am

All I have to say is WHY?

Looks like he was "racing" in the picture you took of him?
As for the use of the facilities & items that every one else's race entry fees paid for... Karma baby.... Karma.

SuperboB · Postby **SuperboB** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:57 am

bandits are one of my pet peeves.

hah.. there's also a picture of mr bandit sucking back on a gatorade cup.

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 8:59 am

I think these photos should be posted in and on all the local running clubs boards and Running Forums . :twisted:

Robbie-T · Postby **Robbie-T** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:08 am

Very nice pictures in your album.

I don't have an opinion about bandits one way or the other, they don't effect my race so I don't worry about them at the time, and generally there is extra Gatorade at aid stations. However it's not right, I wouldn't encourage it and wouldn't run a race as a bandit.

Sir Crashalot · Postby **Sir Crashalot** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:15 am

What goes around, comes around!

Ironboy · Postby **Ironboy** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:19 am

As a matter of principle, I guess its wrong, but it doesn't bother me.

I have run one race as a bandit. The Lake Placid Half Marathon (I was pacing Irongirl during her IMLP training).

I brought my own water. Enjoyed the closed course and felt moderately guilty, but have no trouble living with myself, and didn't lose a wink of sleep over it.

I do feel guilty for the delicious egg and cheese on a croisant I had in the finish area after the race, but I couldn't help myself it looked (and was) so yummy.

It sucks if resources run out and bandits used them instead of legitimate participants, but sometimes resources run out anyway.

I don't condone it, but it's not that big a deal to me.

Portentous · Postby **Portentous** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:23 am

Robbie-T wrote:Very nice pictures in your album.

I don't have an opinion about bandits one way or the other, they don't effect my race so I don't worry about them at the time, and generally there is extra Gatorade at aid stations. However it's not right, I wouldn't encourage it and wouldn't run a race as a bandit.

Actually, reading the race reports it seems like the slower runners/walkers often have problems of aid stations running out of gatorade. So yes, bandits are scum.

DeValera · Postby **DeValera** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:25 am

MINI-T wrote:Looks like he was "racing" in the picture you took of him?

The guy in white is Andrej Petricko who finished 8th, behind him is Brian Brand who placed 7th - around 16km.

side note: for race tactic - Brian had a textbook pass, gradual approach to Petricko, then blew by him leaving both a message and no opportunity to draft.

DV

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:30 am

DeValera wrote:
MINI-T wrote:Looks like he was "racing" in the picture you took of him?

The guy in white is Andrej Petricko who finished 8th, behind him is Brian Brand who placed 7th - around 16km.

side note: for race tactic - Brian had a textbook pass, gradual approach to Petricko, then blew by him leaving both a message and no opportunity to draft.

DV

I guess the issue is, if you are a contender .. and, you see someone ahead of you within the final couple of K's ... would you risk blowing up, if you attack too soon, only to find out it was a Bandit, who drops out of the finish shoot ?? It may help you to catch that rabbit, but it may also affect your race strategy, as well :think:

:think::think:

taking the on course resources, definitely is tacky ... imo ...

Doonst · Postby **Doonst** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:37 am

Let's play "out the bandit". We know what he looks like, we know he's about a 1:20 halfer. Probably GTA or west thereof. Every race has pictures online, how hard can it be?

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:42 am

Doonst wrote:Let's play "out the bandit". We know what he looks like, we know he's about a 1:20 halfer. Probably GTA or west thereof. Every race has pictures online, how hard can it be?

If we had access to CSIS or CSI or CTU databases, we could find it in a matter of mere seconds ... at least that's how it appears on television ..

and, what about Mrs. Bandit ?? can't let her off that easy ...

But, those faces do look familar, however ... :think:

:think:

q · Postby q » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:43 am

Doonst wrote:Let's play "out the bandit". We know what he looks like, we know he's about a 1:20 halfer. Probably GTA or west thereof. Every race has pictures online, how hard can it be?

Sounds like fun!

Here is a place to start. To me "Mrs Bandit"s shirt looks like an event tech shirt. Does it seem familiar to anyone?

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:44 am

qmp wrote:
Doonst wrote:Let's play "out the bandit". We know what he looks like, we know he's about a 1:20 halfer. Probably GTA or west thereof. Every race has pictures online, how hard can it be?

Sounds like fun!

Here is a place to start. To me "Mrs Bandit"s shirt looks like an event tech shirt. Does it seem familiar to anyone?

It actually looks like a Subaru Triathlon Series shirt ... take a peek at her, umm, :oops:

and you can see the three logos ... swim, bike, run ... :wink:

Midge · Postby **Midge** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:47 am

sounds like H@^^P0 all over again

trixiee · Postby **trixiee** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:47 am

Probably no "law" against running on public property. But being a slower runner who has come to empty water stations and barely any food left once I finally finished, I feel very strongly about bandits using resources that are there for people who have paid for them. :evil:

Fast or slow, we paid the same price and should have equal opportunity!

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:49 am

Midge wrote:sounds like H@^^P0 all over again

Umm, no .. actually this guy can run ... the other, just say, cuts corners ?

Midge · Postby **Midge** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:49 am

not the runner - the "outing"

Irongirl · Postby **Irongirl** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:54 am

the female also has an IM logo on her hat.....

q · Postby q » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:59 am

Irongirl wrote:the female also has an IM logo on her hat.....

Yup, I noticed that as well. She probably drafts too!

dwayne_runs_far · Postby **dwayne_runs_far** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:04 am

I wonder what the marshals where doing? Had I been marshaling and saw someone like that, I'd be stopping them and asking questions.

Dwayne

mlazenby · Postby **mlazenby** » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:05 am

I guess it adds an element of thrill to your life.

I think it is despicable. He should just go play in traffic instead.

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