The Cure for Everything!

Because you can't outrun a bad diet!
User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:52 pm

This new book by Tim Caulfield looks really interesting. The link below is to an exerpt from the introduction.

http://www.penguin.ca/nf/Book/BookDispl ... ml?sym=EXC
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
MikeM
Bill Crothers
Posts: 2762
Joined: Tue Sep 22, 2009 11:50 am
Location: Ottawa

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby MikeM » Wed Jan 04, 2012 8:21 am

Thanks, that looks like it's right up my alley. It's on my library hold list now.

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:13 am

I just bought the book, so will give a review once I've read it. So far, I like what I've read in the introduction, specifically these parts:
Every day we are showered with advice about our health. We are told we are fat. We are told what to eat. We are told what not to eat. We are told to cleanse. We are told to take supplements. We are told we need to exercise. We are told to stretch. We are told to take pharmaceuticals. We are told to avoid pharmaceuticals. We are told to get our meridians centred.

We are told to get healthy, damn it!

Of course, it’s true that there has never been more evidence—of vastly differing degrees of quality—to support this advice. We live in the health-science era. It’s everywhere. Pick up a newspaper: there is a good chance you will find several stories on biomedical research. Often the stories are frivolous reports describing a new diet or exercise routine. But some others may be about the latest big science discoveries—a scientific breakthrough, for instance, promising life-enhancing remedies in just a few years. There are also stories that come from the scientific fringe. My local newspaper seems to have at least one article a week on the benefits of some form of alternative remedy, practices deriving from the realms of homeopathy, chiropractic, and naturopathy. Regardless of the source, all of these stories have a common theme: our health.

[…]

My aim is to clarify the picture and explain the forces that have made it obscure. I will try to strip away the hype and the agendas to reveal the sound evidence where it exists, and its absence when the research hasn’t been done. I will also provide practical advice (and warnings) for those wishing to navigate the churning sea of facts, findings, and fears associated with emerging health technologies and health-promoting strategies.
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
Darth Tater
Lynn Williams
Posts: 22549
Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:25 am
Location: Winnipeg, MB

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby Darth Tater » Wed Jan 04, 2012 10:34 pm

I thought this thread would be about bacon. :(

Image
Darth Tater

"Wherever you go, there you are."

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:49 am

Thanks for that, Darth. Mmmmm, bacon! :drool:

Now, back to the book...

Chapter 1 is on fitness. Here are some quotes/summarized points:
"What, precicely, is fitness? Is it the ability to run a fast marathon even if you look like a stickly, starved, waif? Is it the ability to lift 500 pounds despite a BMI that categorizes you as obese? [...] Or is it the capacity to have fun chasing your kids around a park? All of these things measure physical ability. But are they attributes of fitness?'
I'll tell you what fitness is: sex. Sex and good abs. Or, more accurately, the cultivation of good abs in order to get lots of good sex."

- You can't lose weight through exercise alone. At best, you'll be able to maintain and not succumb to the poundage creep that we all experience as we age.
- Muscle does not burn significantly more calories than fat.
- You cannot reduce fat in any specific area of your body, and there is no such thing as "toning."
- Stretching is generally useless.
- low-intensity (i.e., high-rep) weight training is generally useless, lifting challenging weight (8-12 reps) is more effective.
- resistance training is actually better than endurance training, even for endurance athletes. "Note to endurance athletes: the key is to devote a day to lifting. You must truly replace the endurance work with weights. You shouldn't do a mix."
- compound exercises (chin ups, rowing, etc.) are better than exercises that isolate one muscle (e.g., biceps curls), also exercises that put you through a range of motion.

That's all I've read so far, but it's been very eye-opening!
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
mas_runner
Bill Crothers
Posts: 2339
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:37 pm
Location: Hull, QC

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby mas_runner » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:47 am

La wrote:
- You can't lose weight through exercise alone. At best, you'll be able to maintain and not succumb to the poundage creep that we all experience as we age.



How does he explain this? Surely if you are exercise and consume 2400 calories a day you will be more likely to lose weight than if you were sedentary and consumed 2400 calories a day. Depending on the daily calorific needs of this individual, say you need 2000 to maintain, but consume 2400 and burn 800 extra from exercise, you would lose weight compared to not exercising and taking in an extra 400 a day?
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51

2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:45 am

mas_runner wrote:
La wrote:
- You can't lose weight through exercise alone. At best, you'll be able to maintain and not succumb to the poundage creep that we all experience as we age.



How does he explain this? Surely if you are exercise and consume 2400 calories a day you will be more likely to lose weight than if you were sedentary and consumed 2400 calories a day. Depending on the daily calorific needs of this individual, say you need 2000 to maintain, but consume 2400 and burn 800 extra from exercise, you would lose weight compared to not exercising and taking in an extra 400 a day?

Read the book. ;)

Yes, the formula you describe is thoretically correct, however in actuality, people often over-compensate for exercise by eating more (exercise can make you hungry). And it doesn't burn as many calories as we think it does.

Read the book. ;)
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
fe.RMT
Jerome Drayton
Posts: 6257
Joined: Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:06 am
Location: Guelph, ON
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby fe.RMT » Thu Jan 05, 2012 10:49 am

Toronto library has 30 copies and no holds, so I should get one quickly. No e-copies unfortunately.
The rumours are true......

2013:
Thanksgiving Day 5k: 27:26

Coming up:
ORW Half Marathon
NYC Marathon 2014

User avatar
mas_runner
Bill Crothers
Posts: 2339
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:37 pm
Location: Hull, QC

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby mas_runner » Thu Jan 05, 2012 11:02 am

La wrote:
Yes, the formula you describe is thoretically correct, however in actuality, people often over-compensate for exercise by eating more (exercise can make you hungry). And it doesn't burn as many calories as we think it does.

Read the book. ;)


Thanks, ah yes the overcompensating, been guilty of that in the past. I will check this book out, sounds interesting.
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51

2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon

User avatar
jgore
Abby Hoffman
Posts: 8437
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:31 am

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby jgore » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:11 pm

La wrote:Read the book. ;)


Are you actually recommending the book or simply trying to stop us from expressing opinions without having read it, 'cuz you know that ain't gonna happen. Lack of facts has never silenced us in the past. :D

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:22 pm

jgore wrote:
La wrote:Read the book. ;)


Are you actually recommending the book or simply trying to stop us from expressing opinions without having read it, 'cuz you know that ain't gonna happen. Lack of facts has never silenced us in the past. :D

Both. :P

Oh, I know people are still going to express their opinions regardless. I just think if people want to know/understand why he is making the claims he's making (i.e., what evidence he has to back it up) that they should read the book, since he'll do a much better job of explaining it than I will!

I'm just summarizing his points as a way of giving people of sample of what they'll find in the book if they are interested in learning more.
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
MINITEE
Lynn Williams
Posts: 19439
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 1:33 pm
Location: London, Ontario
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby MINITEE » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:23 pm

La wrote:Thanks for that, Darth. Mmmmm, bacon! :drool:

Now, back to the book...

Chapter 1 is on fitness. Here are some quotes/summarized points:
"What, precicely, is fitness? Is it the ability to run a fast marathon even if you look like a stickly, starved, waif? Is it the ability to lift 500 pounds despite a BMI that categorizes you as obese? [...] Or is it the capacity to have fun chasing your kids around a park? All of these things measure physical ability. But are they attributes of fitness?'
I'll tell you what fitness is: sex. Sex and good abs. Or, more accurately, the cultivation of good abs in order to get lots of good sex."

- You can't lose weight through exercise alone. At best, you'll be able to maintain and not succumb to the poundage creep that we all experience as we age.
- Muscle does not burn significantly more calories than fat.
- You cannot reduce fat in any specific area of your body, and there is no such thing as "toning."
- Stretching is generally useless.
- low-intensity (i.e., high-rep) weight training is generally useless, lifting challenging weight (8-12 reps) is more effective.
- resistance training is actually better than endurance training, even for endurance athletes. "Note to endurance athletes: the key is to devote a day to lifting. You must truly replace the endurance work with weights. You shouldn't do a mix."
- compound exercises (chin ups, rowing, etc.) are better than exercises that isolate one muscle (e.g., biceps curls), also exercises that put you through a range of motion.


That's all I've read so far, but it's been very eye-opening!


I agree whole-heartedly with all of the bolded (well, except for the stretching part... lol... )
KEEP GOING, NEVER GIVE UP: Spencer D

Hey, be careful around me, apparently I'm a chronically offended kind of person... ;)

User avatar
Spirit Unleashed
Lynn Williams
Posts: 21772
Joined: Thu Jun 26, 2008 7:38 am
Location: The Texas Tropics

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby Spirit Unleashed » Thu Jan 05, 2012 1:27 pm

At best, you'll be able to maintain and not succumb to the poundage creep that we all experience as we age.
And the amount of exercise plus trying not to over eat is in reality a stark realization. The way is pretty narrow.
Athlete....Maniac 973....Marathon Maniac 6645
Live the most amazing life you can live - La
marathon runners are awesomeness personified - Ian
Bucket list: http://www.tassietrailfest.com.au/
http://ultramonk.blogspot.com/

User avatar
ultraslacker
Site Admin
Posts: 46890
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:33 pm
Location: paradise
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby ultraslacker » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:06 pm

Looks interesting... will have to get my hands on it.

Right now I'm reading "The 4 Hour Body" (same guy who wrote 4 Hour Work Week). It's really interesting, but I think rather far-fetched in a number of areas. He relies a LOT on supplements and extreme regiments too. But with that said, he has a lot of fascinating stuff to say.

He spends a fair amount of time talking about how calories in vs calories out does NOT work in real life because the types of calories do make a difference. But then he also advocates a no-fruit diet, so... :P
"You're an ultrarunner, normal rules don't apply to you." (Doonst)


First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do. ~Epictetus

User avatar
jgore
Abby Hoffman
Posts: 8437
Joined: Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:31 am

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby jgore » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:57 pm

On hold at the library. 30 copies in the Toronto system and none of them were at the Beaches branch.

User avatar
ultraslacker
Site Admin
Posts: 46890
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 5:33 pm
Location: paradise
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby ultraslacker » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:05 pm

Only 7 in VPL but I'm 2nd in line. :)
"You're an ultrarunner, normal rules don't apply to you." (Doonst)


First say to yourself what you would be; and then do what you have to do. ~Epictetus

User avatar
oobinsnaffa
Tom Longboat
Posts: 324
Joined: Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:45 am
Location: Calgary, AB
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby oobinsnaffa » Thu Jan 05, 2012 3:46 pm

I'm going to have to see if I can get a copy of this from the library here. It sounds very interesting.
PBs: 5K: 32:52 - 8K: 55:08 - 10K: 1:05:57

2013 Races
Mar 24: Vancouver Spring Run-Off (8K): Finished, 55:08 (PB)
Aug 17: Spartan Sprint Calgary (3 miles): Finished
Sep 7: Spartan Super Red Deer (8 miles): Finished
Sep 28: Spartan Beast Sun Peaks (13 miles)
Nov 2: Banff Winterstart (5 miles)
Dec 31: Resolution Run Calgary (5K)

User avatar
Doonst
Abby Hoffman
Posts: 10598
Joined: Thu Aug 11, 2005 10:17 pm
Location: the corner of Sixth and Where Do I Go?
Contact:

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby Doonst » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:10 pm

I honestly believe that I lost weight by exercise alone. I can't imagine that my caloric intake went down at all when I became a runner, and I lost over 30 pounds.
next up:


This broken wing will fly again
One fine day
This blackbird's mute gonna sing again
One fine day

So all you sinners come out
And all you drunkards crawl out
Come into the light of one fine day

User avatar
Jwolf
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 37476
Joined: Fri Jul 29, 2005 10:02 pm
Location: Vancouver

The Cure for Everything!

Postby Jwolf » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:23 pm

You guys skipped over the most interesting(?) comment: fitness is.... Sex? Huh? That one I don't really get. There are a lot of very unfit people I know who seem to do fine in that department!! :)
Support me in my fundraising for the Boston Marathon, Boston Public Library team:
https://www.crowdrise.com/o/en/campaign ... iferwolf11

msdesigner
Jerome Drayton
Posts: 4709
Joined: Wed Aug 10, 2005 10:54 am
Location: Ottawa

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby msdesigner » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:33 pm

OPL has ordered 12 copies. 8 on are on hold.
Running 26.2 miles is not limited by physical capabilities but rather by the mind.
Uta Pippig

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:49 pm

How about this nugget:

"Obesity causes inactivity; inactivity doesn't cause obesity."
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
mas_runner
Bill Crothers
Posts: 2339
Joined: Tue Jun 02, 2009 5:37 pm
Location: Hull, QC

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby mas_runner » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:02 pm

ultraslacker wrote:Only 7 in VPL but I'm 2nd in line. :)


7 visible panty lines, damn, this may be worth a read...
PBs
5th Sep 2015 - Run Ottawa free 5km - 21:05
21st Jun 2015 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 10km - 45:45
16th Jun 2013 - UR 4 Men's Cancers 15km - 1:11:44
16th Apr 2016 - MEC 10 miler - 1:20:21
12th Apr 2015 - EY R4R Half Marathon - 1:41:15
26th May 2013 - Ottawa Marathon - 3:43:51

2017 races - coming up
7th May - Defi Entreprise 10km
28th May - Ottawa Half Marathon
17th Sep - Army Run Half Marathon

deerdree
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 31340
Joined: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:48 pm
Location: burlington, ON

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby deerdree » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:07 pm

it's funny, when i first read this thread, i assumed the book was written by a doctor, not a lawyer. :lol:

now that i've looked more closely, i realize that it's someone in my field (i call him timothy, which is probably why i didn't automatically make the connection). i'll definitely have to buy this book!

User avatar
La
Kevin Sullivan
Posts: 47990
Joined: Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:11 pm
Location: Lesleyville!

The Cure for Everything!

Postby La » Thu Jan 05, 2012 6:40 pm

Dee, I thought of you a lot while reading it.
"Maybe I will be my own inspiration." - UltraMonk (Laura)
"Everywhere is walking distance if you have enough time." - Steven Wright

User avatar
QuickChick
Lynn Williams
Posts: 13274
Joined: Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:52 pm
Location: Whitby ON

Re: The Cure for Everything!

Postby QuickChick » Thu Jan 05, 2012 8:29 pm

ultraslacker wrote: But then he also advocates a no-fruit diet, so... :P

No fruit???! That sounds horrible. A no-"anything" diet sounds horrible actually, but fruit is probably the last thing I would ever cut!!
"Don’t let negativity rent space in your brain for free. That is how you become a badass…by excavating her from inside you. You don’t have to become someone else. You need to identify the effing awesome parts of you that are your tools to work with, and maximize those." -Lauren Fleshman


Return to “Nutrition and Weight Management”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests