2012 Boston Marathon Tracking Thread

[ChrisL]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

[Jwolf]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

[Mouse]

Habs
Not sure if you were following her or not. Just checked the results, and our friend Chantel finished in net time 0f 3:51:18, and gun time of 3:56:29.
Considering what she has gone thru lately with her Dad passing and all, I hope that she will be happy with this.
Mouse

[Jwolf]

@35K
Lisa - 4:07:37

@40K
Robin - 4:24:47
Sylvie - 4:37:08


Finished ....
CinC's DH: 3:44:03
Mark (canal runner) - 3:47:47
Alain - 4:14:17
DJHL - 4:36:53

[Habs4ever]

Habs
Not sure if you were following her or not. Just checked the results, and our friend Chantel finished in net time 0f 3:51:18, and gun time of 3:56:29.
Considering what she has gone thru lately with her Dad passing and all, I hope that she will be happy with this.
Mouse

I was tracking her, thanks Mouse. I think she did great.

[Joe Dwarf]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

[Jwolf]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

[Jwolf]

@35K
Lisa - 4:07:37

@40K
Sylvie - 4:37:08


Finished ....
CinC's DH: 3:44:03
Mark (canal runner) - 3:47:47
Alain - 4:14:17
DJHL - 4:36:53
Robin - 4:39:03

YAY ROBIN!!!!!!

[Habs4ever]

Go sylvie, go Lisa.

[Joe Dwarf]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

I understand that but I'm still ambivalent. They paid a bunch of money to be there, they paid their full, non-refundable (I'm sure) race fees and I'm really not sure who's getting hurt here.

[deerdree]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

[deerdree]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

I understand that but I'm still ambivalent. They paid a bunch of money to be there, they paid their full, non-refundable (I'm sure) race fees and I'm really not sure who's getting hurt here.

but they're taking a spot from someone else for next year's race. that's the person who is getting hurt. it's one thing to defer, but i don't think it's fair to run the race twice.

[Jwolf]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

If banditing isn't the word, they we need a slimier one.

[Jwolf]

@40K
Sylvie - 4:37:08
Lisa - 4:45:41


Finished ....
CinC's DH: 3:44:03
Mark (canal runner) - 3:47:47
Alain - 4:14:17
DJHL - 4:36:53
Robin - 4:39:03


Almost there, Sylvie and Lisa!!

[ChrisL]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

I think this will be easily solved by asking people to send their bib back for confirmation, no chip, no pass.



If banditing isn't the word, they we need a slimier one.

[Avis]

Thanks for the regular updates, Jenn. I can't leave my computer 'til they're all safely finished.

[HCcD]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

If banditing isn't the word, they we need a slimier one.

If this indeed the case, and a lot of them, it will be interesting to see what the RD will do about it ... If anyone who had officially deferred their registration to 2013, and happens to wear their bib and cross the finish line, or not ... and happen to have gotten a photo of themselves taken, they could probably do some some sort of search to match and DQ/BAN them for 2013 ....

[Jwolf]

[quote="Jwolf"]@40K
Lisa - 4:45:41


Finished ....
CinC's DH: 3:44:03
Mark (canal runner) - 3:47:47
Alain - 4:14:17
DJHL - 4:36:53
Robin - 4:39:03
Sylvie - 4:54:19


YAY Sylvie

[ChrisL]

It is brutal out there. I've talked to a few runners, and this has not been enjoyable. One guy from South Africa said that this was the worst condition ever for him. Another one saw a couple of runners falling and cutting thier head open, and in my way to my hotel room, I saw 2 stretchers taking people OUT of the hotel after they finish (delayed reaction I guess). I was on the escallator with one; the guy had done 54 marathons his wife said, he was not having any fun. The ambulance sirens are going continually now.

[JoaniB]

RE: Banditting (or not)

With apologies, what exactly are these people doing? They start the race, then remove their time chips? How would that make them deferred to next year? Wouldn't they be recorded as DNFs? Or do DNFs automatically get in for next year?

Also, congrats to everyone who ran!!

[turd ferguson]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

If banditing isn't the word, they we need a slimier one.

If this indeed the case, and a lot of them, it will be interesting to see what the RD will do about it ... If anyone who had officially deferred their registration to 2013, and happens to wear their bib and cross the finish line, or not ... and happen to have gotten a photo of themselves taken, they could probably do some some sort of search to match and DQ/BAN them for 2013 ....

I think its banditing by any definition. If you've deferred, you're not an entrant. Full stop. Running the race makes you a bandit.

[Joe Dwarf]

but they're taking a spot from someone else for next year's race. that's the person who is getting hurt. it's one thing to defer, but i don't think it's fair to run the race twice.

I suppose. The person who is theoretically losing their spot would lose it whether or not the pseudo-banditer ran the course though. So really people are just miffed that they get to run the course twice on one qualifying time, even in horrible conditions and with no official time.

[Squish]

I am relieved that the two runners from Guelph who run with my husband have finished safely .

[ChrisL]

I've talked to one runners who mentionned that people were taking their timing chip off so to not be tracked to be able to get in next year.

Wow- you mean they ran but officially deferred? That's crappy (and essentially banditting)

Well it's gaming the system but I wouldn't go so far as to call it banditing - they paid their fees didn't they?

They deferred, though, in order to maintain their spot for next year. That means they DNSed.

i guess it depends on your definition of banditing (and i suppose this situation is pretty unusual). a quick search google says "A bandit in a race is any person that runs the course and makes use of the race support but has not paid for the right to be there". by that definition, as joe dwarf said, they're not bandits because they paid to be there and they'll pay to be there again next year.

(not that i agree with what they did, at all - i just wouldn't technically call it banditing).

The easiest solution would be to ask people to send their bib back with the chip to BAA, no bib, no pass.



If banditing isn't the word, they we need a slimier one.

If this indeed the case, and a lot of them, it will be interesting to see what the RD will do about it ... If anyone who had officially deferred their registration to 2013, and happens to wear their bib and cross the finish line, or not ... and happen to have gotten a photo of themselves taken, they could probably do some some sort of search to match and DQ/BAN them for 2013 ....

[Jwolf]

I think its banditing by any definition. If you've deferred, you're not an entrant. Full stop. Running the race makes you a bandit.

Exactly.