Could a dehydrated/doping cyclist climb faster?

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Could a dehydrated/doping cyclist climb faster?

Postby jamix » Fri Jul 26, 2013 8:41 pm

Doubt this is known, but could guys like LA and Marco Pantani cycle faster up-hill after cruising for 4-5 hours then they themselves could do on fresh legs on account of weighing less (hence higher watts / kg) due to water-loss / dehydration incurred from cycling for so many hours (while simultaneously being relatively fresh because of the drugs they took) ??
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- Compete in the "Early Bird Sprint Triathlon" in May
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Re: Could a dehydrated/doping cyclist climb faster?

Postby Wu wei » Sat Jul 27, 2013 12:34 am

IIRC, dehydration improves performance to a point for runners... but not the same for cycling because running is weight bearing.

The loss in performance from dehydration would not offset the very marginal increase in W/kg...
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Re: Could a dehydrated/doping cyclist climb faster?

Postby jamix » Sat Jul 27, 2013 9:29 am

Wu wei wrote:IIRC, dehydration improves performance to a point for runners... but not the same for cycling because running is weight bearing.

The loss in performance from dehydration would not offset the very marginal increase in W/kg...


I would think the performance increase would be greater for up-hill cycling; With running, its mostly the weight of the lower limbs / legs thats correlated with performance.

As for running, I suspect there is no performance gain, even if elites do lose >2%. If this were the case, you'd see some 10km track races where the second 5km time-split would be faster than the time for the 5km race itself; Nevertheless, despite the fact that the first 5km time-split is often slow resulting in a significant negative split (think of the 10km Olympics in London 2012), the second 5km still isn't as fast as the 5km race.
2013 GOALS:

- Compete in the "Early Bird Sprint Triathlon" in May
- Run a 5km pb during the "Bushtukah Canada Day Road Race"
- Complete an Olympic distance triathlon
- Cycle > 33 km / hr during the cycle portion of a Sprint Triathlon.
- Stay healthy and happy

Races

April 28th: Manotick 10km (40:16)
May 18th: Ottawa Early Bird Sprint Triathlon (DNF)
June 8th: Riverkeeper SuperSprint (2nd overall)
July 1st: Bushtukah Canada Day 5km (18:37)

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Re: Could a dehydrated/doping cyclist climb faster?

Postby Pat Menzies » Sun Jul 28, 2013 11:44 am

Uphill cycling is about weight as well. Moderate dehydration helps in every scenario.
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