Boston Registration

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:41 pm

jes wrote:Congratulations for those who made it in! I'm so happy for you!!!

And my heart aches for those who just missed. Mcshame, you should totally apply to that contest. Andy, do I not remember reading that Hamilton is the fastest Boston Qualifying course in Canada? You'll get it there, I'm sure!

Hey Jes, Hamilton claims to be the #1 Boston Qualifier in Canada .... but, have yet to see a Canadian nor World Record set on that course, to my recollection ... :think:

Besides, I hear that there will quite a contingent of Maniacs in Hamiton in 40 days ... :shock:

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:42 pm

Does it have to be people trying for under 3:30? :shifty:

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:42 pm

erinmcd wrote:
HCcD wrote:
Pat29 wrote:
erinmcd wrote:
mcshame wrote:Got it,it's offical, I'm done...Surprisingly upset considering that I was prepared for it.

Bummer

I guess it's you and me in Ottawa 2012 to try again.

I'll be there trying to qualify in Ottawa in May if I don't get a BQ in Philly this year.

Anyone interesting in forming an RM Pace Team for sub 3-whatever in Ottawa ??

Sub 3????
Oh, maybe you mean BQ-3:XX mins?

I think that's a great idea. I've still got 2 years of 3:10 BQ, so I'm going to need to be 3:07ish. Having the support of a group of folks working together toward a BQ-3ish would be awesome.

Yep, if we all aim for your BQ time, Erin ... then we will all be but guaranteed BQ Entry for 2013 ... :shifty:

HCcD · Postby **HCcD** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:44 pm

Jwolf wrote:Does it have to be people trying for under 3:30?

Nah, no problemos ... Let's start a 2013 Boston Qualifying Shallonge Thread ... :wink:

erinmcd · Postby **erinmcd** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:48 pm

HCcD wrote:
Jwolf wrote:Does it have to be people trying for under 3:30?

Nah, no problemos ... Let's start a 2013 Boston Qualifying Shallonge Thread ...

That's more along the lines of what I was thinking.

This year we had the 20/40/90 challenge- next year it could be the BQ minus X challenge.

jes · Postby **jes** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:51 pm

HCcD wrote:
Jwolf wrote:Does it have to be people trying for under 3:30?

Nah, no problemos ... Let's start a 2013 Boston Qualifying Shallonge Thread ...

I'm not in a position to join said thread, but I'd enjoy following you all in one spot!

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:53 pm

erinmcd wrote:
HCcD wrote:
Jwolf wrote:Does it have to be people trying for under 3:30?

Nah, no problemos ... Let's start a 2013 Boston Qualifying Shallonge Thread ...

That's more along the lines of what I was thinking.

This year we had the 20/40/90 challenge- next year it could be the BQ minus X challenge.

Oh, I misread your other post Erin. I thought you meant the challenge thread would only be for those who needed close to 3 hours.

BQ-3-ish would be 3:52-ish for me. That's pretty scary, but we'll see how I do in NY. I'm thinking it won't really take -3, though. Next year it won't be as close with the times already 6 minutes faster; they might even be able to take everyone.

Doonst · Postby **Doonst** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:53 pm

Won't the 5 minutes difference in 2013 mean back to the days of BQ=in?

CinC · Postby **CinC** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:55 pm

The DH got in. Even after he said that 2011 was going to be his last Boston. Something special about that race.

Pat29 · Postby **Pat29** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:58 pm

erinmcd wrote:
HCcD wrote:
Pat29 wrote:
erinmcd wrote:
mcshame wrote:Got it,it's offical, I'm done...Surprisingly upset considering that I was prepared for it.

Bummer

I guess it's you and me in Ottawa 2012 to try again.

I'll be there trying to qualify in Ottawa in May if I don't get a BQ in Philly this year.

Anyone interesting in forming an RM Pace Team for sub 3-whatever in Ottawa ??

Sub 3????
Oh, maybe you mean BQ-3:XX mins?

I think that's a great idea. I've still got 2 years of 3:10 BQ, so I'm going to need to be 3:07ish. Having the support of a group of folks working together toward a BQ-3ish would be awesome.

I'll be aiming for the same qualifying time as well.

ChrisL · Postby **ChrisL** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 1:59 pm

I am IN. It seems that there will be quite a few Maniacs going next year. I feel sorry for the ones who did not make it.

deerdree · Postby **deerdree** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 2:06 pm

mcshame wrote:Got it,it's offical, I'm done...Surprisingly upset considering that I was prepared for it.

i'm so sorry, lorne. i was rooting for you.

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:02 pm

Doonst wrote:Won't the 5 minutes difference in 2013 mean back to the days of BQ=in?

Depends on how much faster people can get. I doubt it will happen in one year (over 5000 people would have to run faster) but presumably people will start to train harder- they don't want to have to worry about this again so from now on the graduated registration period will still be in place. To register in the first week you would need new BQ-5.

mcshame · Postby **mcshame** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:09 pm

Wow, tough moment. I was in a meeting and following the acceptances noted in the thread and then I ran to my desk to check if my name was there, it wasn't. I went back to the meeting and an email came in my blackberry saying I wasn't accepted. Hit me like a ton of bricks and I couldn't speak at the meeting as I was sure my voice would have broke...

I am honored that I was given the opportunity to apply and I'm seriously going to keep the registration and rejection emails in my shadowbox of my BQ in Niagara with the pictures and medal.

I will send my story to iRun as I think that my 2010 story is a good one. And it would be a good follow up story to the my half marathon PB that was in there...I will be creative writing tonight while the emotion is raw.

And whether that happens or not, I will get into marathon form again because there is a new 3:10 goal to be achieved. 3:15 will likely be enough, but someone need to pace Erin to his BQ...

I will no longer live in the past on this thread, just the iRun submission. I would like to congratulate all those going to Boston. You all deserve to bask in the glory of your accomplishment. I'm truly happy for you.

Jo-Jo · Postby **Jo-Jo** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:26 pm

mcshame wrote:...And whether that happens or not, I will get into marathon form again because there is a new 3:10 goal to be achieved. 3:15 will likely be enough, but someone need to pace Erin to his BQ...

I will no longer live in the past on this thread, just the iRun submission. I would like to congratulate all those going to Boston. You all deserve to bask in the glory of your accomplishment. I'm truly happy for you.

I am so disappointed for you...BUT...so happy to read about this new resolve. Yes...Erin needs help...have you met him...he's trouble :twisted:

purdy65 · Postby **purdy65** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:29 pm

Lorne,

I'm sure your story will be AWESOME! If you need some maniac help winning it, let us know!

I'm so sorry about how the cards fell for you, Cheryl and Andy (though Andy does have some awesome plans for next year!)

canalrunner · Postby **canalrunner** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:32 pm

Performances more than 74 seconds below the standard are accepted into the 2012 race
BOSTON – The Boston Athletic Association (B.A.A.) today notified almost all applicants from the second week of 2012 Boston Marathon registration on whether they were accepted into the 116th running on April 16 or not. All notifications were sent via e-mail this afternoon.

Its new registration process allowed the fastest runners in relation to their qualifying times register first and fill the race based on the principles of athletic achievement and excellence – two hallmarks of the Boston Athletic Association for the past century.

In total, 8,596 applications were received during the second week, with the B.A.A. drawing the line after those qualifiers who beat their qualifying standard by 1 minute, 14 seconds. For clarification, the maximum qualifying times are listed below.

2012 Mens Qualifying Performances and Accepted Times
Age Group Standard eligible to submit an application Qualification times accepted through and including
18-34 3hrs 10min 3hrs 08min 46sec
35-39 3hrs 15min 3hrs 13min 46sec
40-44 3hrs 20min 3hrs 18min 46sec
45-49 3hrs 30min 3hrs 28min 46sec
50-54 3hrs 35min 3hrs 33min 46sec
55-59 3hrs 45min 3hrs 43min 46sec
60-64 4hrs 00min 3hrs 58min 46sec
65-69 4hrs 15min 4hrs 13min 46sec
70-74 4hrs 30min 4hrs 28min 46sec
75-79 4hrs 45min 4hrs 43min 46sec
80 and over 5hrs 00min 4hrs 58min 46sec

2012 Womens Qualifying Performances and Accepted Times
Age Group Standard eligible to submit an application Qualification times accepted through and including
18-34 3hrs 40min 3hrs 38min 46sec
35-39 3hrs 45min 3hrs 43min 46sec
40-44 3hrs 50min 3hrs 48min 46sec
45-49 4hrs 00min 3hrs 58min 46sec
50-54 4hrs 05min 4hrs 03min 46sec
55-59 4hrs 15min 4hrs 13min 46sec
60-64 4hrs 30min 4hrs 28min 46sec
65-69 4hrs 45min 4hrs 43min 46sec
70-74 5hrs 00min 4hrs 58min 46sec
75-79 5hrs 15min 5hrs 13min 46sec
80 and over 5hrs 30min 5hrs 28min 46sec

mcshame · Postby **mcshame** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 3:37 pm

Jo-Jo wrote:
mcshame wrote:...And whether that happens or not, I will get into marathon form again because there is a new 3:10 goal to be achieved. 3:15 will likely be enough, but someone need to pace Erin to his BQ...

I will no longer live in the past on this thread, just the iRun submission. I would like to congratulate all those going to Boston. You all deserve to bask in the glory of your accomplishment. I'm truly happy for you.

I am so disappointed for you...BUT...so happy to read about this new resolve. Yes...Erin needs help...have you met him...he's trouble

Yup, we ran together in Ottawa 2010 and he was trying to keep up with me. Now, I will be the one desperately trying to keep up with him!

Joe Dwarf · Postby **Joe Dwarf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:15 pm

canalrunner wrote:In total, 8,596 applications were received during the second week, with the B.A.A. drawing the line after those qualifiers who beat their qualifying standard by 1 minute, 14 seconds.

So it would seem next year's standards ought to be sufficiently tough. Nice that they were able to keep the cutoff not too far off the mark, too bad for all those that were so close. Congrats to all you qualifiers!

SteveF · Postby **SteveF** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:20 pm

canalrunner wrote:Performances more than 74 seconds below the standard are accepted into the 2012 race
BOSTON – The Boston Athletic Association (B.A.A.) today notified almost all applicants from the second week of 2012 Boston Marathon registration on whether they were accepted into the 116th running on April 16 or not. All notifications were sent via e-mail this afternoon.

Its new registration process allowed the fastest runners in relation to their qualifying times register first and fill the race based on the principles of athletic achievement and excellence – two hallmarks of the Boston Athletic Association for the past century.

In total, 8,596 applications were received during the second week, with the B.A.A. drawing the line after those qualifiers who beat their qualifying standard by 1 minute, 14 seconds. For clarification, the maximum qualifying times are listed below.

2012 Mens Qualifying Performances and Accepted Times
Age Group Standard eligible to submit an application Qualification times accepted through and including
18-34 3hrs 10min 3hrs 08min 46sec
35-39 3hrs 15min 3hrs 13min 46sec
40-44 3hrs 20min 3hrs 18min 46sec
45-49 3hrs 30min 3hrs 28min 46sec
50-54 3hrs 35min 3hrs 33min 46sec
55-59 3hrs 45min 3hrs 43min 46sec
60-64 4hrs 00min 3hrs 58min 46sec
65-69 4hrs 15min 4hrs 13min 46sec
70-74 4hrs 30min 4hrs 28min 46sec
75-79 4hrs 45min 4hrs 43min 46sec
80 and over 5hrs 00min 4hrs 58min 46sec

2012 Womens Qualifying Performances and Accepted Times
Age Group Standard eligible to submit an application Qualification times accepted through and including
18-34 3hrs 40min 3hrs 38min 46sec
35-39 3hrs 45min 3hrs 43min 46sec
40-44 3hrs 50min 3hrs 48min 46sec
45-49 4hrs 00min 3hrs 58min 46sec
50-54 4hrs 05min 4hrs 03min 46sec
55-59 4hrs 15min 4hrs 13min 46sec
60-64 4hrs 30min 4hrs 28min 46sec
65-69 4hrs 45min 4hrs 43min 46sec
70-74 5hrs 00min 4hrs 58min 46sec
75-79 5hrs 15min 5hrs 13min 46sec
80 and over 5hrs 30min 5hrs 28min 46sec

I am sooo glad I ran Ottawa to lower my time....I would have been out by 41 seconds!
Lorne, you'll get there. It sounds like this may the fire you were looking for!

ian · Postby **ian** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:26 pm

Jwolf wrote:
Doonst wrote:Won't the 5 minutes difference in 2013 mean back to the days of BQ=in?

Depends on how much faster people can get. I doubt it will happen in one year (over 5000 people would have to run faster) but presumably people will start to train harder- they don't want to have to worry about this again so from now on the graduated registration period will still be in place. To register in the first week you would need new BQ-5.

Between the extra 5 minutes, the number of "carryover" applicants this year who had preferred to race Boston in 2011, and a certain number of people who applied this year with a "one last time" mindset, I think we'll now be back to a few more years of seeing every BQ get in and having a couple of months for the cap to be reached. If so, this will restore some of the fall marathons as "double qualifiers".

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:54 pm

From http://www.baa.org:

23,521 applications were received during the two weeks of registration.

20,081 applicants have been accepted or are in the process of being accepted, pending verification of qualifying performance (14,780 from Week One; 5301 from Week Two).

3,228 applicants were unable to be accepted due to the large number of eligible qualifiers who submitted an application for entry combined with field size limitations.

An additional 277 qualifiers who had run 10 or more consecutive Boston Marathons were also accepted.

Interesting that not only did they choose not to expand the field but they actually took LESS people than many had predicted. I wonder if this is because of where the cutoff would otherwise fall and whether they tried to find a natural "valley" in the distribution. Or maybe they didn't want to get to the 1000-2000 cutoff range for fear of criticism for cutting relatively few. Cutting over 3000 gives it a bit more legitimacy, I guess.

chunkymonkeymelonhed · Postby **chunkymonkeymelonhed** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:26 pm

I'm out- by 47 seconds. damn.

Time to get it together and try to take some time off.

Goal race - Vancouver 2012. BQ or bust.

SteveF · Postby **SteveF** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:26 pm

After reading through some posts around the Internet, I find it amusing that people are already talking about targeting their new BQ time since next year it should be enough. We should really take this year as a lesson to train your hardest and race your best race. Not just pace for a BQ. Who knows we may be faster than we think!

Jwolf · Postby **Jwolf** » Mon Sep 26, 2011 6:40 pm

SteveF wrote:After reading through some posts around the Internet, I find it amusing that people are already talking about targeting their new BQ time since next year it should be enough. We should really take this year as a lesson to train your hardest and race your best race. Not just pace for a BQ. Who knows we may be faster than we think!

Not everyone has a cushion- for me if I can go for my BQ time it will be a very aggressive target and I'm quite sure it would be my best race. It's not an arbitrary number.
Most of those people saying they'll go for their new BQ times know how hard they had to work to get where they did.

And likely next year the minimum standard WILL be enough.